We did a discussion about 20 minutes, about whether or not the conference contents are recorded.　

Yamanouchi raised that is fearing that the recording tape, spans to SHAC that is the center of the protest action where requests HLS closure in England, and is anxious the body of the employee because the protest action to Yamanouchi Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd. etc. of SHAC is intense, as the reason that Yamanouchi Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd. dislikes recording.

We ARC expressed that today's contents announce with the Internet and report, although it does not do it to pour the recording tape into SHAC, and an exact record is necessary, to not cause futile discussion and, emotional complication like that we said or did not say.

Before the reply to the proposal document, Yamanouchi Pharmaceutical Co. Ltd. Criticized the article of ARC’s homepage (Article that we published in the word called the suspicion about the proposal contents) that it is the contents that are one-sided and be near slander and canard and give misunderstanding.

ARC explained that phoned to confirm the fact with regard to the proposal contents in this time in August, at that time Yamanouchi Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd. corresponded ‘it’s no comment at all’, and so we recorded as the suspicion with the reason like that.

about this information.[In 1989 the British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection exposed HLS for the first time when they sent an undercover worker into HLS in Huntingdon. Sarah Kite, the investigator, wrote a book detailing her findings. She spoke of a Yamanouchi experiment testing a bone metabolism ameliorator on dogs. The experiment was over a period of a year and symptoms included pressure sores on front legs, discharge from both eyes and hernia.]

Yamanouchi：We have never entrusted this sort of experiment, and never done at even own company. 

1997 after an undercover investigation in to HLS by PETA, information was released that 36 puppies were going to have their legs broken with steel wire without aneasthetic. This experiment was to test an osteoporosis drug by Yamanouchi. Many animal activists protested , so　The dogs were released and was announced the experiment as stop.
However, there are the information with the possibility that did the experiment by using different dogs, your company continues to be the client of HLS yet, after that.

Yamanouchi: Although not unaesthetic, we were planning the test. We suspended with the stage of the plan.

Yamanouchi USA released to mass media that stops the animal experiment that we was entrusting to U.S. HLS company and for the medicine under development as the treatment medicine of osteoporosis. Furthermore, it is scheduled to confirm to U.S. FDA about the experiment that changes to this. We are hearing that dogs were disposed by HLS. After that we haven’t done the experiment of the same kind.  

Is your company entrusting animal experiment to HLS even the present?

How do recognize and be evaluating HLS that is doing a cruel animal experiment?

yamanouchi: HLS is the trust research organization that clear in a high levels the various standards of the severe animal experiments of England.
We are consenting to it that HLS received the inspection and guidance of England Ministry of Agriculture around 1996, but it was improved after that. At present, HLS is receiving the support of the government and industrial or the pharmacy whole trade of the world. When we entrust animal experiment, the person in charge of experiment is having there shown once at least. However, it is not the person of the ethics committee regarding an animal experiment to visit. 
(Main point)  

The problem is this present condition that is deciding only with the side that does it pharmaceutical company etc. what kind and how it does the animal experiment. Citizen and social common sense must decide it. First of all, it is necessary announce the contents of the animal experiment that they do.The disclosure discussion with regard to right or wrong of the animal experiment for the first time, if advance disclosure is done. It needs to move to the system that citizen.